Comments on: MOOW, Day 1

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By: Dan Norris

Dan Norris — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:59:54 +0000

Yep, the trip was totally worth it. I just realized too that I haven't blogged anything about the visit since I returned, so all I have here is Day 1! Hope I still have my notes–maybe I'll write up day 2 as well.

I'll definitely put it on my list for future years!

By: Marmaris

Marmaris — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:22:01 +0000

it is a long trip to get here from Chicago, even just this first day of presentations is worth the trip. The networking opportunities are abundant and I prioritize this event higher than many others

By: Dan Norris

Dan Norris — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:28:07 +0000

Hi Nick,

It is a great event and small enough to get close to speakers too. The location is a bit remote–you wouldn't likely go there unless you were looking for a family vacation spot in eastern Denmark–but it's a great event for sure.

Hope the Collaborate planning goes well this year! Hope to see you in Orlando for sure!

By: Nick

Nick — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:52:31 +0000

Thanks for sharing Dan. I never heard of MOOW until reading your post. Hope to attend next year!

By: John Scott

John Scott — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:27:54 +0000

Dan,

Absolutely, I agree with you that the perception of if something is 'new' or 'old' depends on your frame of reference.

It was actually a very 'timely' comment, as at OpenWorld one of my presentations was 'Dispelling Myths About APEX' which covers most of the common myths/FUD/misconceptions etc that I've come across and the 'it's unproven/too new' type of argument comes up all the time.

John.

By: Dan Norris

Dan Norris — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:00:26 +0000

To be clear, I don't think Toon said that part--I added that myself.

You're right, but there are still people running Oracle8. I personally believe that APEX is ready for the masses now (from what I've seen--I'm not a developer). I sense that there are many that still view it skeptically and hesitate to adopt it. The typical reasons I hear and/or sense for the avoidance are:
1) We're a forms shop, long live forms!
2) It's free? We don't use open-source products. (Clearly, they don't understand.)
3) We don't know HTML.
4) We don't have time to train our team on a new tool

While many of us will gladly argue most of these points away, I think the real truth is that people fear what they don't know. As evidenced by some sites that have "taken the plunge," it's a fine tool and capable of doing most of the things that most sites need.

Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment here.

By: John Scott

John Scott — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:43:46 +0000

Dan,

I'm curious about your comment -

“once APEX matures.”

APEX has been around in one form or another since around 1999, being used internally by Oracle at that point, with “Project Marvel” (one of the stepping stones to the current APEX) announced at Oracle OpenWorld in 2002. The first public release of HTMLDB (the name prior to APEX) was in 2004.

So whilst many customers are new to APEX, the tool itself has quite a long heritage and is extremely stable as a production environment.

Of course, I'm an APEX Evangelist and my views are biased

John.